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…I don’t know. I’m actually not sure how invert physiology would work like that. @speciesofleastconcern?
Probably not? Once an arthropod is done molting, there isn’t more room for muscle growth under the exoskeleton.
This contains a pretty good answer: https://biology.stackexchange.com/questions/897/do-insects-muscles-become-stronger-with-exercise
Here’s the answer from the link above, if you don’t want to click through:
“There are instances of insect muscle growth in response to increased use. The flight muscles of the tsetse fly (Glossina morsitans) have been observed to grow at a faster rate when subjected to enforced exercise (Anderson and Finlayson, 1976). Also larger mandibular adductor muscles (which power the feeding apparatus), and associated head capsule have been noted for caterpillars and grasshoppers feeding on particularly hard grasses (Bernays, 1986). However these examples occur immediately post-eclosion (i.e. after emergence as adults), and during immature stages respectively. Insect muscle typically grows during larval/nymphal (immature) stages, and often for a brief period at the start of adulthood - known as the teneral period. During immature stages, insects typically have a flexible membrane to allow for tissue growth and expansion, this can also be the case during the teneral period, before the inflexible exoskeleton has fully hardened. However at full maturity, insect growth is limited by the rigidity of their exoskeleton.
As far as excessive exercise is concerned, that some insects may be weakened permanently may be more to do with the fact that their life strategy is different to ours. Due to the vast number of offspring per adult, and subsequent low survival chance of any given individual, there could be an evolutionary advantage for individuals pushing themselves to possibly deadly extremes. This could lead to many deaths, whilst retaining a viable population and thus accelerate the emergence of a population of fitter individuals.“
Here’s another thing to think about - muscles get stronger by repairing damage with more muscle. For that to happen, you have to actually put enough strain on a muscle that it works past what it is currently capable of supporting. Muscles that you can’t stress - because they’re tiny or there’s no range of motion which which you can engage them (like the erector pillae that engage when you get goosebumps) - can’t get stronger. Since exoskeletons aren’t flexible, they probably don’t allow for an insect’s muscles to move enough past their normal range of motion to the point of strain.
That’s a pretty narrow view of how muscle strength works. Strength does not = hypertrophy in a neat equation. Farm boys are typically lanky, but the strength they acquire through farm work will often exceed that of hypertrophied muscle builders. Yes, there is increase in bulk but it need not be as extravagant as suggested by this commentary.
You’re totally right, but at the same time, that type of muscle build still requires enough strain to cause something to repair - it’s just not a range of motion thing. Since bugs can’t really work out (I feel like most limbs that are not evolved for grasping / climbing couldn’t engage in them even if the bug could somehow consciously try), there’s no way for them to take strain other than through normal movements.
…maybe constant repetitive movement, like on a treadmill? But then you’d still be limited by the ecoskeleton.
Working out through natural movements is an entirely reasonable proposition. Callisthenics, for instance, use body weight and leverage to build strength. As a side effect they also build bulk and definition, though nowhere near the level of that achieved through weighted exercise.
I see what you’re saying about the restriction placed by the adult exoskeleton. My issue is really two-fold: that with strain applied through regular working movements (farm labour) muscle will typically develop with low bulk/high strength and second that insects still need to be able to adapt to their environment. Take ants, or bees, for instance, if they exhaust local food supplies suddenly they need to develop muscle that will permit further foraging, so stronger wing and leg muscles. I don’t see these facts are allowed for in your argument.
Honestly, you’re just bringing up new ideas for me. I guess my question with your last question is why are we assuming that whatever baseline muscle strength exists wouldn’t be enough to get them to more remote food sources? But that’s also based in not knowing how strong bug muscles are sans any attempts at “bulking up” past normal usage - I think I’m assuming that there’s not much exercise that would surpass whatever their normal muscle mass is enough to strain it.
A good question that I don’t know enough about to have an opinion on was posed in the notes: would increase muscle mass potentially cut off respiratory tracts, due to limited space inside the exoskeleton?
man you know what I want? a superhero series where they have powers that 100% contradict their personalities. a fishermans daughter who lives by the sea, swims every day, learns that she can control fire. a boy who’s mortified of heights but realizes he can use antigravity and hates it. someone who was bitten by a dog as a child, suffers extreme fear around animals, can now communicate with them. they’re all disgusted by their powers.
yes good but what about the ~character development~ as they learn to cope with their powers and overcome their fears
the pyrokinetic swimmer wading out into the ocean armed with waterproof matches to practice so nothing goes wrong, building her confidence with the sea as her safety net, being so proud when she figures out how to heat the air just enough that she dries off instantly after swimming
the boy slowly overcoming his fear of heights, realizing that he can catch himself if he ever falls, standing swaying on top of playground sets and closing his eyes as he tries to safely hover down (and not fall on his face again)
the girl’s terror lessening as the previously terrifying cacophony of the dogs at the park turns into a chorus of “ball! ball! throw me the ball!” “it’s me! I’m the good boy!” and “squirrel!!!” and learning to communicate back, have them listen to her, learning how to calm down a dog who’s overexcited to the point of biting, discovering that the scary dog down the street is just home alone a lot and lonely, staring her fear in the face and learning its secrets
because being disgusted with their powers is interesting, but I want to see people learning to love even the scary and contradictory parts of themselves
“lol the only people mad about the tumblr announcement just want porn lol”
Yeah, no.
Tumblr blocked the tag “chronic pain” in this mess for no reason
They’re flagging commonly used tags by queer people, sex educators, and artists who make their fucking LIVING on tumblr
They’re gonna take down genuine sex workers because they didn’t curb the problem with spamming porn bots YEARS ago when tumblr users REPORTED OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND *OVER* that it was a problem
Tumblr IGNORED the bots, IGNORED the problems, and honestly treated it like NOTHING until their app was taken off a store due to it.
They’re fucking over a shit-ton of REAL PEOPLE who rely on tumblr for community and/or income because they ignored users’ complaints about shitty porn bots for YEARS until it had financial consequences
I can no longer even talk about chronic pain without the post being blocked from searches
I have drawn one or two nude pieces on my art tumblr which is 99% safe for work but now I’m worried the blog will be taken down entirely because Tumblr won’t bother differentiating between spam and REAL PEOPLE just trying to live their goddamn lives
And god forbid I want to talk about bisexuality or sex or kink in just… MY LIFE. As a normal-ass human being who just wants to TALK ABOUT HUMAN THINGS
No, their solution to nuke a problem they’ve ignored for years is to take us all down at once
So maybe don’t laugh about “oh no not my pornz” because 1. plenty of that ~porn~ is made by actual humans making their living and 2. WAY MORE than “just porn” is being targeted
This along with Facebook continuously upholding white supremacy by letting nazi shit fly by while they ban people for speaking out against their oppressors and it’s basically like we’re running out of truly free places to just… BE
Anonymous asked:
How do you think the two boys would react if YUTS Izuku met Canon Izuku?
pitviperofdoom answered:
I mean they’d get along, I guess. Canon Izuku would probably be kind of thrown by a few things, like YUTS Deku’s sarcasm and dark sense of humor and overall appearance (between the mild scarring and obvious signs of sleep deprivation).
What interests me more is if both All-Mights end up in that same situation, because can you imagine YUTS All-Might meeting Canon Izuku? Like he sees another version of this kid, his boy, and he doesn’t know the context, he doesn’t know the difference between these two versions of Midoriya Izuku. As far as he knows their circumstances are more or less the same, but here’s an Izuku who is bright and outgoing and relentlessly cheerful (and well-rested), while the one he’s been training is world-weary and anxious and always looks so exhausted and resigned that he can only wonder what am I doing wrong? How do I help him? And asking the other All-Might is no help because he can’t tell what they’ve done differently. In this other world, his and Aizawa’s plan for the final exam worked, but in his world it blew up in their faces. This other Izuku is so open and ingenuous, and All-Might’s not stupid, he knows his Izuku hides things from him, and he wonders what he’s done so wrong that makes his student so hesitant to trust him. Why does his Izuku have so many nightmares? Why does his Izuku act like he toes the line between eerie calm and teeth-clenched desperation? How does he fix any of this?
…sorry if that didn’t answer your question, i kinda went off on a tangent there.
Warlock: What did you do before all of this?
Bard: Well, I was big in the wrestling scene. They called me the No Holds Bard.